Fwd: [IHRO] Hindu Terrorism is a misnomer? Why did Godse kill Mahatma Gandhi?

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From: Ashok T. Jaisinghani <ashokjai@sancharnet.in>
Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [IHRO] Hindu Terrorism is a misnomer? Why did Godse kill Mahatma Gandhi?

Why did Godse kill Mahatma Gandhi?

 

    Maharshi Parshuram can be described as a demon many times more evil than even Raavan. According to Hindu mythology, Maharishi Parshuram was a mass murderer and a TERRORIST who killed all the Kshatriyas 21 times. But Manoj Padhi has compared the extremely ruthless mass murderer Maharishi Parshuram with the most highly revered Hindu Gods like Ram and Krishna. It is not surprising that the Brahmins very proudly worship the monster Maharishi Parshuram as one of their most important Gods. 

 

    Yes, Manoj Padhi is right when he states that I won't understand such a thing with my rational brain. I agree with him when he suggests that only a great person having an irrational brain like Manoj Padhi can understand such irrational comparisons. After all, Maharishi Parshuram was a Brahmin who could commit mass murders, and still be right, because the Brahmins believe that they can never be wrong.

 

    Why are Manoj Padhi and Abhijit Sengupta indulging in just empty talk about the teachings of the Gita, Puranas and Upanishads, when the lower castes among the Hindus have been terrorized for many centuries due to the extremely evil ideology of Brahminism? The bigoted Brahmins still advocate and justify the discrimination based on the hereditary caste system, untouchability, the Devadaasi system of prostitution and practice of adultery, the custom of Satee, etc.

 

    The bigoted Brahmins continue to believe in their divinity and advocate the worship of Brahmins as the Gods on Earth who can treat all the working class people as Shudras or hereditary slaves. They also want all the Hindus to drink cow's urine and eat bullshit. In short, the bigoted Brahmins want to bring back the same old fascism and totalitarianism of their bigoted ancestors. If they have their way, such bigoted Brahmins can only bring many more misfortunes and disasters to India.  

 

    Does the story of the mass murderer Maharishi Parshuram not indicate that the bigoted Brahmins are the worst enemies of the Kshatriyas? Unfortunately, the Kshatriyas have not even realized that the bigoted Brahmins only have contempt and hatred for the Kshatriyas. The bigoted Brahmins consider the Kshatriyas to be inferior human beings, and are constantly working against them just like they are working against the interests of Vaisyas, Shudras and the untouchable outcastes.

 

    Why did Godse kill Mahatma Gandhi? The Brahmin Nathuram Godse could justify his killing of Mahatma Gandhi because the bigoted Brahmins believe that a Brahmin has every right to kill a lowly Bania or Vaisya for any reason.

 

    By killing Gandhiji, did Godse try to save India? How could Nathuram Godse have saved India, which was already partitioned due to the wrong decisions of Jawaharlal Nehru, who was in a desperate hurry to become the Prime Minister of an independent India? The hypocrite like Jawaharlal Nehru, along with Vallabhbhai Patel and Muhammad Ali Jinnah, caused the Partition of India, but the blame is still wrongly being put by the bigoted Brahmins on Mahatma Gandhi who was absolutely against the Partition of our country.

 

    How could Mahatma Gandhi be blamed for the Partition of India when he was neither a part of the Interim Central Government nor a member of the Constituent Assembly of India, like Jawaharlal Nehru and Vallabhbhai Patel were? Mahatma Gandhi never had a legal right to make any decision about the Partition of India. The other top leaders of the Indian National Congress had actually decided to partition India without even consulting Mahatma Gandhi. Jawaharlal Nehru, Vallabhbhai Patel and other Congress leaders forced Mahatma Gandhi to accept their decision to partition India.

 

    Manoj Padhi and Abhijit Sengupta should not try to falsify the recorded history by ignoring the actual facts about the individuals who were really responsible for the Partition of India.

 

    As the leader of the Interim Government and the Constituent Assembly, Jawaharlal Nehru was the main person who was legally responsible for the Partition of India, but the bigoted Brahmin Nathuram Godse could never even dream about killing another Brahmin like Nehru for the crime. After Independence, the bigoted Brahmins decided that somebody had to be blamed for the Partition of India and must be killed for that crime. So the bigoted Brahmin Nathuram Godse chose to kill Mahatma Gandhi, only because he was a lowly Vaisya who had become too important and too popular for the comfort of all the bigoted Brahmins. By killing Mahatma Gandhi, Nathuram Godse actually helped a fellow Brahmin, Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, to consolidate the rule of Brahmins over India.

 

    If Mahatma Gandhi had treated Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose unjustly, and made him quit the post of Congress President, who was responsible for the conspiracy behind that event? Gandhiji's cunning flatterer, Jawaharlal Nehru, and the other Brahmins of the Indian National Congress, had refused to continue working under Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose as the Congress President.

 

    There is no doubt that Gandhiji too had his faults like any other human being. After all, Mahatma Gandhi was not perfect like what God is believed to be. One of his biggest faults was his inability to see through the flattery of the most cunning Brahmin like Jawaharlal Nehru, who knew how to use Gandhiji for achieving his own selfish goals. 

 

    Jawaharlal Nehru had succeeded in using Mahatma Gandhi even to become the first Prime Minister of free India, though the majority of Congressmen had preferred Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel for that post. 

 

   Ashok  T. Jaisinghani.
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----- Original Message -----

From: Abhijit Sengupta

To: Manoj Padhi

Cc: Ashok T. Jaisinghani ; IHRO@yahoogroups.com ; Palash Biswas ; HindToday ; Central Chronicle ; Ashok Sharma ; DAVE MAKKAR ; Jagannath Chatterjee ; rakesh dubey

Sent: 19 Jan 2011 3:37 PM

Subject: Re: [IHRO] Hindu Terrorism is a misnomer? Rajiv Gandhi was Killed by Hindu Terrorists of LTTE

 

Dear Mr Jaisinghani,

I fully agree with what Mr Padhi said in reply to u. In any case, u hv chosen not to address the point raised in the original letter that spawned this debate, viz." The question of terrorism never arose as the teachings of Gita, Puranas. Upanishads made our people the most tolerant in the world.

After Emperor Ashoka's reign, history has recorded conflicts between potentates. The foreign powers felt encouraged to intrude. Eventually, this resulted in the subjugation of the country. But there was no such thing as terrorism.
In contemporary India, the invasion will take place from within, and in the form of terrorism. One is reminded of the Great  Calcutta killings of 1946 when Hindus retaliated only after three days. This prompted Mahatma Gandhi to step in. "

Gandhiji was lovingly given the title "Mahatma"~ and this has given him some aura which may not be wholly justifiable. He was after all a politician and played undemocratic politics in ousting Netaji Subhas from the post of Congress Presidentship, because (though Subhas bore utmost respect towards Gandhiji, Gandhiji had not reciprocated this feeling, rather vis-a-vis Subhas), he allowed himself to be led by a passion triggered by his perceived sense of rivalry and a challenge to his authority

Gandhi injected communal politics in India by incorporating irrelevant Khilafat Movement in our freedom struggle to entice communal Muslims into Freedom Movement as if there was no other way. Subhas did not need to invoke such devices~ his call to all Indians "Give me blood, and I will give you freedom" was good enough to draw all sections of Indians~ Hindus, Muslims, Christians or Sikhs into his INA with no division felt.

When our present day politicians play with casteist or communal politics, they are only following Gandhiji's footsteps.

Coming to the days of bloodbath by Muslims to secure Pakistan, Gandhiji hardly uttered any word of protest. And the Hindus were the victims everywhere, even in Hindu majority areas because such vicious killing did not come naturally to them.
After Pakistan has been achieved, the Muslims thought that it was only a preliminary victory~ it was their birthright to lord over the Hindus and annexe whole of the subcontinent bit by bit, even if same took a thousand years~ Vide Z A Bhutto. So they attacked Kashmir and sure enough, our politicians stopped short of completing the defeat of the invaders that was almost there due to bravery of our army comprising of all communities(Including Brig. Osman) and of secular Kashmiris (like Maqbool Sherwani), both of whom achieved their martyrdom at the hands of the 'hanaders'.

When this war went on, Gandhiji sat on a fast, for what? To force Indian govt. to pay the enemy Pakistan, a share of common wealth of the subcontinent~ forgetting that that new-born country indulged in war against us. I am sure had there be any case of yielding to some rights of the Hindus, Gandhiji would have kept mum. Unlike Punjab, Bengali Hindus from E Bengal had no exchange of population~ so they came over to this side as paupers.   It was always fashionable for Hindus to support Muslims at the cost of their fellow religionists. The same lopsided approach is being followed by Gandhiji's followers as well as other politicians, even now~ vote bank politics, of course!

Mr Jaisinghani, please read abv with what Mr Padhi wrote and undertake a retrospection of your coloured views.

ASG

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Manoj Padhi

To: Ashok T. Jaisinghani

Cc: IHRO@yahoogroups.com ; Abhijit Sengupta ; Palash Biswas ; HindToday ; Central Chronicle ; Ashok Sharma ; DAVE MAKKAR ; Jagannath Chatterjee ; rakesh dubey

Sent: 19 Jan 2011 1:09 AM

Subject: Re: [IHRO] Hindu Terrorism is a misnomer? Rajiv Gandhi was Killed by Hindu Terrorists of LTTE

Dear Mr. Jaisinghani:

Per your logic, even Ram, Krishna and all Hindu Gods are also terrorists as Ram killed Ravana without giving him due process; Krishna killed his uncle. You may ask, who are they to kill some one before the natural death of an individual ?

In Narasimha Avatar, you may question the tearing down of stomach of Hiranya Kashipu - which violated Human rights.

Why Parashuram killed all kshtriyas 21 times and lost his power to lord Ram, another kshtriya - these are pre-determined mythological events  - you won't understand with your rational brain. If you want to compare - which is more powerful - Brahmastra or Nuclear bomb - I don't have any answer.

So, for the argument sake:

Hindus belief in winning of Good over evil.
Majority of Hindus don't believe in current version of secularism because the other community not only divided a Hindu land, but have been pain in the axx for  almost 70 years. Aligned with China to hurt us and in india - take a close watch the Noor masjid happenings.

So, Hindus would be okay if good prevailed over evil - and did you explore - why Godse killed Gandhi ? Whether, by killing Gandhiji, he tried to save India or hurt India ? Didn't  Gandhiji showered his love and affection for Pakistan even after the Hindu holocaust of 1947 ? Do you have a rational explanation for that, which pondered in Godse's mind ? How every Hindu is feeling when Afzal Guru is not hanged ? and why would not Congress hang Afzal  ?

I personally belief that - Gandhji is a great job until 1947 and after that he took his leadership granted, just like today's Congress sees no harm in deferring Afzal's death sentence, which we don't understand.

In short - these are complicated and better left to courts, who did justice in Aydhoya Temple case - Muslims couldn't comprehend - How could that happen in a secular country ?

We are a Unique 99% Hindu Nation in a 1% secular coating. Muslims believe - India is a 99% secular country and 1% 'Sanghi' people.

So, it is complicated..

-Manoj Padhi

 

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Ashok T. Jaisinghani <ashokjai@sancharnet.in> wrote:

Hindu Terrorism is NOT a Misnomer

 

    The whole world knows about the crime of the Brahmin  TERRORIST Nathuram Godse who killed Mahatma Gandhi. Many Brahmins still consider Nathuram Godse as a great hero and worship his idols, especially in the state of Maharashtra.

 

    In a story of Hindu mythology, even the Brahmin called Maharishi Parshuram was a mass murderer and a TERRORIST who killed all the Kshatriyas 21 times.

 

    The Brahmins feel extremely proud while referring to the GENOCIDE of Kshatriyas committed by Maharishi Parshuram, whom they consider as one of their greatest ancestors. Therefore, Hindu Terrorism is definitely not a misnomer.

 

    Many of the atrocities committed against the lower castes and outcastes are also a form of Hindu terrorism, which has been practised for many centuries. Hindu Terrorism is a very old evil.

 

    Let us not forget that the former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi was killed by the Hindu terrorists belonging to the LTTE.

 

   Ashok  T. Jaisinghani.
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www.Nutritionist-No-1.com
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----- Original Message -----

From: Abhijit Sengupta

To: ihro

Sent: 16 Jan 2011 12:35 AM

Subject: [IHRO] Hindu Terrorism is a misnomer~ a letter

 

Deviant Hindus
SIR, ~ Amit Kushari's article, "In saffron and in green" (12 January) is a lopsided treatment of a very sensitive aspect of terrorism. Hinduism is a religion that dates back to thousands of years. The question of terrorism never arose as the teachings of Gita, Puranas. Upanishads made our people the most tolerant in the world.
After Emperor Ashoka's reign, history has recorded conflicts between potentates. The foreign powers felt encouraged to intrude. Eventually, this resulted in the subjugation of the country. But there was no such thing as terrorism.
In contemporary India, the invasion will take place from within, and in the form of terrorism. One is reminded of the Great  Calcutta killings of 1946 when Hindus retaliated only after three days. This prompted Mahatma Gandi to step in.  "Saffron terrorism" is a misnomer. Like Godse, there may be some people who have chosen the wrong path out of sheer frustration.
yours, etc., raj chakrabarti, kolkata, 14 january.

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